the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.
i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.
so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.
Excellent line of reasoning with JWs.
We atheists are not swine or dogs. We are people who only accept evidence. We use reason and logic, and therefore can't accept fairy tale explanations for where we come from.
In another thread, please share your "evidence" that Jesus is real, and created anything at all.
know where in the bible will you find christian religions being condemned for teaching the trinity or hell fire doctrines, but you will find jesus condemning those that come as messiah's or christs (both mean anointed) and declaring 'the time is near'.
you will also find paul cursing anyone that preaches a gospel different then the apostles preached as well as cursing those that change or add to the bible.
oh darn jw's thats you, you fit the bill in all of these!!!!!!
SFPW, are you sure you're interested in those answers? Because Crazyguy is about to give them to you.
new boyfriend is upset bc an old boyfriend when i was a teenager is on my fb friend list and wished me a happy birthday.
was supposed to go to turkish embassy for cultural celebration.
my first birthday in years, and total freaking meltdown.
Some people don't like when all the attention is supposed to be on someone else. They'll always do something to get attention instead. Go out with your girls, or on your own. Maybe pick someone up who doesn't feel they own you?
yesterday in yet another attempt to get me back to jehovah's organization of faithful men, we began to argue.
when i asked her how she could possibly trust the men leading this organization who have lied over and over again about everything we believe.
she literally scream ed at me and said, "the men jehvoah uses in this organization to take the lead are standup men who always have the best intentions for the flock.".
This will get you nowhere with your wife. You need to back off! It's good that she is willing to talk to you, but be "respectful" when you talk about the org and the brothers. The last thing you want when you are trying to reach her is put her on the defensive. Chill. Out.
god did not make life in a simple form and allow it to evolve into more complex forms.
instead, he created basic kinds of complex plants and animals, which then reproduced according to their kinds.
( genesis 1:11, 21, 24 ) this process, which continues today, has resulted in the earth being filled with the same kinds of life that god originally created.. the bible does not specify how much variation can occur within a kind, as might result when animals within a kind interbreed and adapt to their environment.
What the hell is a "kind?" What about when different members of a "kind" are so different that they can no longer interbreed? Yes, that's right... Speciation.
Humans are Great Apes... Next question.
an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
Does the number of increase in the JWs indicate jehovahs blessing and direction? Does it prove that the WT is god's chosen organization?
If so, then the JWs are very... VERY far down the list among Christian religions. Besides, ex-JWs are not cult members... JWs are. Cults attract and retain members through mind control. People come to this site confused, angry and sad. We help each other through our hard times caused by the cult, the. Most move on with their lives. The only time an ex-JW talks to another person about JWs is when they're warning them to stay away! This religion is poison. All religion is poison. The sooner the world reizes that, the sooner we can move on as a race.
But.. Please, continue
i was watching this lecture of him (very nice actually) and he was referring a lot of the bible.
now he used a bible version with jehovah's name in it and used it quite a lot.
i was therefore wandering: was he a witness at some point (around 6.20)?.
Funny, I just read his book, "Why I Am Not a Christian" today
a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
But once someone learns to sort through fact and fiction ie. material from spiritual, how can they NOT lose faith in a deity? The spiritual cannot be tested, therefore cannot be true. Once someone realizes that, a deity is not important.
after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
You said there is no hope outside the truth ... But on other threads you state ad nauseum that there is no truth , no facts , etc... You are right, you don't fit in here.
Of course you are joking about "returning to jehovah" lol good luck, see you at the big A
i am currently on a business trip for a trade show in another city.
as i'm walking to the convention center, i run into 2 jw's preaching.
one is about mid 60s the other probably mid 30's.
You didn't stump them, you just set off their apostate alarms. They weren't going to waste their time on you
